Saturday, November 22, 2008

Re: Please answer this question? Solution


 
Assalam-o-Alaikum
Lot of friends sent answer C.
I asked my 5 years old and he went with the 13 (a). Because it is easy to count he like it better. :)
Of course the answer is not so obvious otherwise I would not ask it.
All the answers are correct: Now you will ask how. To friends who know math and little computer science Hexadecimal, Octal, Decimal.
It depend on the "Principal of Understanding"   in Arabic or Urdu "Usool-Fiqh" .
Since for the common practice we follow decimal system and no one deviate from it otherwise there will be ciaos. Imagine you buy some groceries and try to add in Hexadecimal and want to pay, the shopkeeper will through you out of the store. Although your math will be fine and correct. or if you end up in country who to business in octal and you want decimal same problem.

But in the matter of our deen Islam we want to be like 5 years old to pick and choose what is easy and completely disregard the Usool.
Lot of friends want to use Hanafi, Shafai and humbly at the same time and the argument is that "aren't they all correct"
Answer is that yes they are but their principals are all different, when you follow one type of pricipal (taqleed) it is for the ease of use and simplification of life.
If you do not follow a single imam's principals then you are like 5 years old who disregard the principal and take whatever look cool. Unless you come up with some new principals al togather. That is major reason of caos in our religion now a days. Specially if you read the recent recomendations of "Islamic Nazriati Concel" in Paksitan.
I hope that we all think hard on our atitude for our religion and give "Principals of understanding" of any issue more then the end product of each problem.
Regards
Azfar

Quran 16:90 Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.
 
 


On 11/22/08, Azfar <azakram@yahoo.com> wrote:

 
Assalam-o-Alaikum
Please answer this question

Problem #

a

b

c

 

2 + 7 + 5 + 4 + 1

2 + 7 + 5 + 4 + 1

2 + 7 + 5 + 4 + 1

Answer

13

23

19

 

Which answer is right? a, b or c


Azfar

Quran 16:90 Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.
 

 

 


Friday, November 21, 2008

Please answer this question?


 
Assalam-o-Alaikum
Please answer this question

Problem #

a

b

c

 

2 + 7 + 5 + 4 + 1

2 + 7 + 5 + 4 + 1

2 + 7 + 5 + 4 + 1

Answer

13

23

19

 

Which answer is right? a, b or c


Azfar

Quran 16:90 Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.
 


Saturday, November 15, 2008

Must See Robert Fisk interview




 
Assalam-o-Alaikum
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWGJepUwQ-U&feature=channel
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v39_lgWOQrw&feature=channel

Azfar

Quran 16:90 Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.
 



From: kashif karim <kashif_karim@lycos.com>
To: nauman sheikh <nashaikh@hotmail.com>
Cc: Azfar <azakram@yahoo.com>; Zeeshan Ghalib <zeeshan.ghalib@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:20:02 PM
Subject: Re: [RE]Allah save the world !

Assalamualaikum,

Misunderstanding on the rise.....:)
 
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Subject : Re: [RE]Allah save the world !
Date : Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:02:43 +0500
From : "nauman sheikh" <nashaikh@hotmail.com>
To : "kashif karim" <kashif_karim@lycos.com>, "Azfar" <azakram@yahoo.com>
Cc : "Zeeshan Ghalib" <zeeshan.ghalib@gmail.com>

Grand Plans against Pakistan
-------------------------------------------
I am with Azfar on this one. I think we give them too much credit and I never ever understood when someone says
America wants to destroy Pakistan OR America wants to do this or that....what are we talking about? Who is America or What is America? Is there a lobby, a secret society, a CIA wing what is it? I don't find the argument that they are after our nuclear assets plausible as similar to Iraq they can take it out. Its not that we don't have traitors or US doesn't have information as to where the assets are.

1. The only reason why I even spent time writing these things is so that you know we sufis don't just worry about making tasbeeh and correcting our own selves without any concern for what's happening around the world.

2. What is really happening is at best any one's own understanding of the current situation that we are just sharing with each other. What is really going to happen we will find out sooner or later. Its not revelation anyways that I want to stand by at all costs. Insha'Allah no more email discussion on these topics.

3. However, using your own words in this email, let me ask you whether you think they are plotting against us or are not plotting. Because from your words it seems like you are saying both things.

Enemies have always conspired against us and they always will. We are required to live according to Allah's commands and nothing exonerates us from that duty.

4. Masha'Allah, 100% agreement on this. Now the only questions ! that remain are what are the commands of Allah? and how do we live our lives according to them? Lets work together to answer these questions (and any more derivations of them that come to mind insha'Allah)

I think it is about time we stop blaming others and start blaming ourselves.

5. Blaming others doesn't always have to be wrong. It depends upon what is you niyyah, who you are blaming and whether you are at the same time keeping a critical eye over yourself as well or not. So there is a lot of detail to this which unfortunately I will have to leave for another time.

We are weak and we are at a point of degradation as a society that every tom dick and harry is able to exploit and conspire against us.

6. This argument is partly true and indeed fits us as a nation but is not always true if we are thinking that if we were good no body would be able to plan against us. For example, the society being made by the Prophet (saw) was the most perfect society that ever existed on the face of this earth, yet there were always a lot of people busy plotting against it. Sometimes they were even temporarily successful in their plans, though the final victory was the Prophet's.

Wassalaam
Nauman
----- Original Message -----
From: kashif karim
To: Azfar
Cc: Zeeshan Ghalib ; nauman sheikh
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [RE]Allah save the world !


comments below.
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Subject : Re: [RE]Allah save the world !
Date : Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:53:46 -0800 (PST)
From : Azfar
To : Zeeshan Ghalib , kashif_karim , nauman sheikh

Assalam-o-Alaikum
Dear Fellows,
Regarding the ISI propganda for mahsood or others; there might be some true to that, but i think that is like mujahdeen getting help from CIA or ISI in 80s or Help of India to Makti bahni.
>> I don't know the truth, but without supporting the way army is dealing with it, I don't think I agree with how Azfar is looking at it either.

Whatever it is army do not explain killing of their own country men. specially civilians women and children. It will fuel the insurgency. And it is wrong.

>> True.

Also to the Kashif points that the world plan of US, I always think that we give these orgnizations here too much credit for any shortcomming we have of our own. I agree these people plan and have ill feelings towards Pakistan but in grand scheme of things do you really think they have greater ill feeling towards Pakistan then Chaina. Or from Islamic point of view Saudi Arabia.

>> Sorry, but I strongly disagree. There is a huge difference between their reasons for planning against Pakistan and China. SA, yes, but they don't have the technical expertise and ability to lead as is available in Pakistan. Hence, first Pakistan then SA. at least that's how it looks like. Again, details are left for latter because I have to go.

If these countries against all odds and USA and Israeel plans these countries manage to progress then one must think Pakistan can do good too. I feel there are two things which need to be fixed on pirority
1. Justice System ( Independent Judiciary) this will also deal with lawlessness, corruption etc
2. Honest Leadership
I strongly feel only thing which can help us is ourself. And we should stop blaming others for our own shortcommings. This is a problem in all the circles religious and non. I does not mean that US and other do not have their agents in Pakistan, for crying out loud jews have their agents in Khulfa-e-Rashdeens time and they manage to do lot of harm, Killed Hazrat Uthman. and manage to prvoke two factions in islam and fight among sahaba.
But we always manage to come out of that, but we should start working.

My suggestion is to make an independent presure group which does not take part in politics but try to guide people what is a best way to aproach any problem we are having.
In Politics and GOVT side Obama orgnization story is quite impressive
Also in economics we have Argentina, Some years back they were attached to USA but then IMF manage to dump them and they went bankrupt. Now they are on their own doing just fine. There were 5 presedent changed in one week. So where there is no money in GIVT corupt politiions will not get to it.

>> I agree with most but not all of the above, but no time left to write any more emails. Have to go.

wassalam


Azfar

Quran 16:90 Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.





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From: Zeeshan Ghalib
To: kashif_karim
Cc: Azfar ; nauman sheikh
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 8:26:08 PM
Subject: Re: [RE]Allah save the world !

Assalam alaikum,

>>>Assalamualaikum Nauman, I think I can only comment on your points when we personally meet.
How will I benefit from those comments then? :)

>>>From what I have concluded is that the US is now, out of its besabri to
implement the plans (that were laid out in Hadith, have been >>>openly
discussed even in US media such as 60 minutes,
Aer you refering to the Ahadith regarding the Army from East/Khurasan or some other ahadeeth? Can you share those Hadiths please? I have tried to do a lot of research and don't wan't to miss any hadith on this subject.


W'salam,

Zeeshan


On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 3:57 AM, kashif_karim wrote:


Assalamualaikum Nauman, I think I can only comment on your points when we personally meet. If you're free I will be coming to Defence Ph IV tomorrow morning around 11 to attend a program. Would like to meet you either before going there (in which case we can go together) or drop by your house after it. It ends at Zuhar. Will call you later today to ask your availability insha'Allah.

Zeeshan will be here in December too. Hope Azfar could come too. It would be very nice sitting with ya'll.

Now coming to Azfar's email. Please see my comments below.


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Subject : Allah save the world !

Date : Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:19:33 -0800 (PST)

From : Azfar

To : Zeeshan Ghalib , nauman sheikh , kashif_karim

Assalam-o-Alaikum
Good to see all of you in the mail.
I have been discussing this BrassTack person with my uncle from last year, he was or may be is fan of this program. I will admit some of the program were good. after lot of research i think (this is my opinion) that this is psych op division of ISI. right now the ISI Kibla is US so the purpose of this group is to demonize the (NWFP groups name them talib) and justify army actions. But this is discussion for some other time.

>> I was almost sure after seeing, actually hearing just a few of his programs that he is ISI's mouthpiece. After coming here it seems that this is common knowledge about him among those who keep their hearts and minds open. From what I have concluded is that the US is now, out of its besabri to implement the plans (that were laid out in Hadith, have been openly discussed even in US media such as 60 minutes, but still very conveniently rejected by many educated Pakistani youth as conspiracy threories) is now finally looking for ways to enter Pakistan. Pakistan has, unfortunately been the territory of the Army (which is governed by its ISI). Now this means dethroning the ISI. There was always an unofficial concern that this is what is eventually going to happen in the Army (among both its religious and secular circles) but now it has become a reality. Now, in utter desperation, the ISI is trying to fight back. This Brasstacks thing is just the pschy ops
part of this war that !
ISI is trying to start against the US. They don't want to speed it up because the more time they can buy the better it is for them to prepare and the more America is going to slide down economically and hence socially, therefore they are not coming out in the open as the support behind ZH. People still think that ISI's qibla is the US, whereas its quite clear from ZH's programs and many other informal opinions heard that ISI is now up against the wall and it has no other option but to fight back. China and Russia are still there to look upto for help but this time it doesn't look like any one is going to come for help in amounts that Pakistan/ISI is going to be needing. This is a very very difficult scenario for the people of Pakistan who will be caught in the middle. Many will decide to side with the ISI but only because out of their love for Pakistan, not because they are on the side of the truth. The only hope in this all messed up situation is that
there are people both!
in Pakistan and the US who are now thinking outside nationalities and
now only connect to Allah. It is hoped that those people will eventually be able to steer this conflict of Jageerdari (of the ISI trying to protect its jageer here and the US trying to expand the Jagir of Israel so that it paves the way for the Anti Christ) in the direction of peace for humanity. We hope to be among those people insha'Allah. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it will be possible at the moment because we (the people who want peace for humanity) are too weak, even though our numbers are masha'Allah growing at exponential rates everywhere, whether Pakistan, US, Europe etc. A phenomenon that is not hidden from anyone's eyes.

Now in the mail and discussion about the election in US. I will admit that what BUSH & co did to Republican party in a long time no one have been able to do that. It is complete devestation of RNC.
So for us one enemy at a time.
Also I want to remind you guys (a wise enemy is better then stupid friend) what ever Obama is he is not stupid.
And whatever Bush was to us (enemy or friend) was stupid.

>> Obama is certainly a sharp person. But how his sharpness works out is to be seen. If he is really good (but just get manipulated by the administration's gurus who really run the show), Allah (swt) may actually give him hidayat and he will become Muslim. Actually a couple of our friends whose dreams have come true in the past, have seen him as Muslim in their dreams. (remember, the Azan we hear 5 times a day was given to the ummah in a dream of a sahabi, not even of the Prophet saw). I have many reasons to believe that Islam is going to spread in the US (en mass) sooner than many think, but for now the bad guys seem to be in control (whether with Obama's consent or without) and they are going to carry forward with their plans. May Allah (swt) protect us from their evil. (now Nauman, please don't translate my use of bad guys as looking at this all like a holywood movie. this is just two easy words to use for people who have evil intentions. May Allah
give them hidayah but w!
e can not look away from their existance as long as they are there).

In our country right now we have worst kind of govt, most corrupt people on earth bith in Army and Civil.
just for example they took one million for poor Dr. Afia. and do you wonder that there is no more export of US prisnors. Because USA realise that Pak army and civil guy cashing out the brand of alqaida and they people they provide are just rounded up people. So at this moment of time I don't know what will be better
Let Pakistan go bankrupt?
Take IMF loans (which will end up in Swis banks any way)?
Pardon my french. Poor people are F%$*ed.
I can send you some audio vidio worth watching for Obama movement and how change can be brought. Let me know

>> We all know that IMF and Bankruptcy are neither solutions, nor we are going to have a part to play in any of these decisions. People of Pakistan (myself being the first target of this naseehat) will have to turn to Allah (swt). Things are going so bad that people of Pakistan (who don't consciously turn to Allah) will have no one else left to turn to except Allah (make taubah) and change their lives according to the Deen. (that obviously includes changing their economic practices*). Good for us that we are being pushed quite hard in that direction alhamdolillah instead of being allowed to drop further. This conversion is just a big phenomenon that you can not attribute it to any one group or person, though many people are independantly playing their own parts in it (may Allah make us among them). Basically it looks like Pakistan is being prepared to be in the forefront for the eventual drive of humanity to worldpeace.

>> * this is where the detailed studies done by people like Nauman Shaikh and Zeeshan Ghalib are going to come into play insha'Allah. Right now, its mostly academia with little scope for implementation. I am not saying no scope, I am saying little scope, so I am not saying that we are wasting our times gaining detailed understandings of these systems.

>> Please try to read my email a couple of times if you have objections as I have crammed up too much information in too few words. Insha'Allah we can discuss more if anything's unclear. I remain open to different opinions insha'Allah. Also, please try to keep this ajiz's name out of this analysis if you want to verify it from your own sources. Its just an analysis, based in parts on some knowledge of quran, hadith, & world news, some common sense, and some intuition. The surest way to discern truth from falsehood remains TAQWA as Allah (swt) says if you have taqwah of Allah, He will give you Furqan. (8:29). May Allah allow us all to work towards it.

Azfar

Quran 16:90 Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.





________________________________
From: Zeeshan Ghalib
To: nauman sheikh ; kashif_karim ; Zeeshan Ghalib ; azakram@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 2:59:55 AM
Subject: Re: [BrassTacks_Direct] Obama has started working!!! Allah save the world !

W'salaam bhaiyon,
nauman i completely agree with almost all of what you have said. Lets
keep this discussion going. i will write in detail from home.
Where will you be in december second half?
Zeeshan

On 11/7/08, nauman sheikh wrote:
> lets keep the discussion between the 4 of us until we clearly understand
> each other since we have the mutual care and respect for each other and know
> that none of us is an agent with an agenda.
> Lets go item by item
>
> 1. I never claimed the triuph of the US democratic system I simply tried to
> explain the PERSONAL vested interest of a politician in any policy decision.
> People vote for/against an issue based on personal interests and therefore
> if the voting is going against Muslims for example it is not a concpiracy it
> is the heart of the individual plagued with our hatred. We need to fight
> that ideological battle and not political or economic battle. If we can turn
> his Heart toward Allah his actions will be in line with Allah's Ihkaam
> automatically. However we can leave this discussion on a lower priority for
> now and may have to come back
>
> 2. There are three common global domination theories developed in the last
> 50 years
> a. Global Banks, IMF and WorldBank rule the world
> b. Large Corporations rule the world (offshoot of capitalism)
> c. Secularism rules the world through modern democracy (or imperialism)
>
> Zeeshan is in the first camp and the 2 sources mentioned (along with a few
> excerpts online) are the only sources of this theory that everybody seems to
> have researched. For the corporations rule the world there is 1 book and
> numerous articles and documentaries
> http://www.amazon.com/When-Corporations-World-David-Korten/dp/1887208046/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211492014&sr=8-2
> for research and then the secularism is another with much more material
> available particularly through research work of religious organizations like
> Akhwan, Hizb and Tanzim-e-Islami.
>
> Interestingly Jews are ultimately behind each of these. While a and c call
> it out explicitly, b is a little subtle in placing the blame on them. I
> hardly ever find people who have studied all three perspectives. Looked at
> individually they all make sense and the BrassTack dude has also never
> analyzed the other 2 perspectives. He is living in a dillusional world
> because until you research the other perspectives you don't see what is
> actually going on.
>
> 3. All three have a conflict with Islamic Ideology:
> a. The financial markets break a fundamental principle of sharia't. Justice
> in distribution of wealth
> b. Consumerism - "He who has the most toys wins" is in direct conflict of
> our purpose in this life
> c. Secularism is a close relative of aetheism and therefore has no place in
> our philosophy
>
> I can spent hours explaining 3a to 3c but I am sure this group understands
> this better than anyone else so I hope I don't have to.
>
> 4. Having studied all three in great detail and cross-checked each
> individually from works of great scholars of the golden age like Imam
> Ghazali, Ibn Taimiyyah, Ibn Rushd, Imam Shatibi and Ibn Khuldoon....my
> conclusion is that all three theories are correct and they work hand in hand
> to support each other in a vicious cycle that takes us towards hell fire day
> after day. HOWEVER, there is no THEY or THEM who is manipulating all three
> in this vicious circle. It is IT - the ideology, which brings all three
> together and the millions who seem to be participating in this global
> campaign. If individually one of these was actually ruling the world the
> current crisis wouldn't have been able to hit at the heart of the first,
> seriously damage the second or hit at the foundation of the 3rd.
>
> 5. The people like Brass Tack are actually making a fool of us by ensuring
> that our energies and efforts are targetted at the wrong enemy. Until we
> believe that Banking/Financial markets are the real enemy and the one we
> have to beat for our salvation, we will be fighting the wrong war. Whether
> BT have an agenda or not I don't know, I personally think he is dillusional.
> I can dismantle his absurd economic theories by providing facts which
> counter his dillusion but those facts are conveniently ommitted by the 2-3
> sources of information that everyone reads. For starters I would suggest
> studying the limitations of Uni and Bi Metalism in the 15th century Spanish
> Khilafat, the most advanced government at the time.
>
> Please lets take these items 1 by one and keep putting in your
> views/perspectives.
>
> Wassalaam
> Nauman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kashif_karim
> To: Zeeshan Ghalib
> Cc: nauman sheikh ; azakram@yahoo.com
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [fasticsna] Fwd: [BrassTacks_Direct] Obama has started
> working!!! Allah save the world !
>
>
> Assalamualaikum Zeeshan,
>
> thorey din aur theyr jao. Doodh ka doodh aur pani ka pani khud hi
> alag hojai ga. A few days ago Nauman had written about triumph of the
> American system when the congress rejected the bail out plan. Too bad it was
> reversed too soon after minor changes.
>
> By the way, I am also a little dissappointed by seeing the texts you
> are recommending Nauman to read. I am not a fan of ZH's tone myself,
> although much of what he says is factually right. Unfortunately the people
> he is acting as the mouth piece of seem to always think of themselves as
> jungle ka shayr, who whethere gives Anda aur Bacha (meaning whichever way
> wants to run his jungle) no one can question him.
> Simple youth of Pakistan aren't able to understand it so they are
> always fall for them, but this time i! ts different. Alhamdolillah there are
> many youth and elders who are now turning to the Master of the Jungle ka
> Shayr so they are not willing to take either sides. Neither the Shayr's nor
> the Shayr's enemies.
>
> Nauman, insha'Allah I will call you myself this weekend. Just been
> very very busy with family and stuff since coming back.
>
> wassalam
> Kashif
>
>
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> Subject : Re: [fasticsna] Fwd: [BrassTacks_Direct] Obama has
> started working!!! Allah save the world !
> Date : Thu, 6 Nov 2008 23:22:58 +0000
> From : "Zeeshan Ghalib"
> To : "nauman sheikh"
> Cc : fasticsna@yahoogroups.com
>
> Assalam alikum Nauman,
> "Shooting the messenger" is not something I expected from you :)
>
> >>just curious....would this mesage still had gone out if McCain
> had won?
>
> >>My thinking is that yes only the name would've changed. This
> dude is
> >>dillusional and sees GRAND CONSPIRACIES in everything
>
> So which part of the email sounds like a conspiracy theory to you?
> The MSNBC
> part? I do agree with you. I don't usually trust source myself,
> but this
> information has been verified from other sources as well.
>
> >>and has no idea about
> >>the distributed nature of US elections.
>
> The Left (Democrat) and the Right (republicans) are two sides of
> the same
> coin. There will not be any major change in America nor its
> foreign policy
> until someone like Ron Paul becomes President, which in my opinion
> is not
> even remotely possible in the current corrupt political structure
> of
> America. Every president regardless of being republican or
> democrat comes
> from the same elitist group the CFR.
>
> >>If the economy was booming it was
> >>the Jewish agenda of capitalism....if the economy is tanked that
> is also a
>
> >>Jewish agenda to destroy other economies and the dollar...blah
> blah blah
>
> >>He needs to get a crash course in economics 101 and drop THEY
> from his
> >>lexicon. Everything that happens around is actually a conspiracy
> of
> >>THEM.....he never explains who THEY is. Does he have a
> name/proof of any
> >>kind or societal evolution and development is somehow a
> conspiracy.
>
> The so called "economics" (based on fractional reserve banking and
> fiat
> currency) that you are referring to is the largest slavery and
> exploitation
> system this world has ever seen. New York exchange is the largest
> casino of
> the world which has very little to do with long term investments
> and thrives
> mostly on speculation.
>
> Don't count so much on this Riba based economic system on which
> Allah has
> declared war in the Qur'an. Rather than a crash course on
> economics 101, we
> need to read books like John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic
> Hit Man"
> to get a glimpse of their so called "global economic system" and
> how IMF and
> World Bank is used to bring countries to their knees. This
> economical
> system in which a super power like the United States cannot print
> her own
> currency and has to borrow it from a gang of private banks called
> the
> "Federal Reserve"??
> http://www.federalreserveeducation.org/fed101/structure/
>
> If you don't know the THEY of the banking cartel, do a research on
> the
> Rothschild Family.
>
>
> W'salam,
>
> Zeeshan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM, nauman sheikh wrote:
>
> > just curious....would this mesage still had gone out if McCain
> had won?
> >
> > My thinking is that yes only the name would've changed. This
> dude is
> > dillusional and sees GRAND CONSPIRACIES in everything and has no
> idea about
> >
> > the distributed nature of US elections. If the economy was
> booming it was
> > the Jewish agenda of capitalism....if the economy is tanked that
> is also a
> > Jewish agenda to destroy other economies and the dollar...blah
> blah blah
> >
> > He needs to get a crash course in economics 101 and drop THEY
> from his
> > lexicon. Everything that happens around is actually a conspiracy
> of
> > THEM.....he never explains who THEY is. Does he have a
> name/proof of any
> > kind or societal evolution and development is somehow a
> conspiracy.
> >
> > Regards
> > Nauman Sheikh
> > Sahics '92
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Zeeshan Ghalib"
> > >
> > To: >
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:46 PM
> > Subject: [fasticsna] Fwd: [BrassTacks_Direct] Obama has started
> working!!!
> > Allah save the world !
> >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Zaid Hamid >
> > > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:32:24 +0500
> > > Subject: [BrassTacks_Direct] Obama has started working!!!
> Allah save the
> > > world !
> > > To: pakpotpourri@googlegroups.com
> > > Cc: brasstacks_direct@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > We at BrassTacks expect serious threats and risks for Pakistan
> and
> > > Muslim world in the coming days when Obama will embark on
> unfinished
> > > agenda of Bush. Pakistan and Palestine would be two critical
> areas to
> > > watch. Here are the indicators of what tsunami is in the
> making to hit
> > > Pakistan in the coming days.
> > >
> > > Inshallah khair. We see their game and we expose it and
> inshallah will
> > > resist and counter it as well.
> > >
> > > Wassalam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ZH
> > > -----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27554337
> > >
> > > Obama turns to task of building administration
> > > Sources say Ill. Rep. Rahm Emanuel is expected to be named
> chief of staff
> > >
> > > (wikipedia)Rahm Emanuel was born in Chicago, Illinois in 1959.
> His
> > > father, the Jerusalem-born Benjamin M. Emanuel, is a
> pediatrician and
> > > was a member of the Irgun, a Zionist Militant organization in
> the
> > > 1940s.
> > >
> > > Irgun (Hebrew: ארגון; shorthand for HaIrgun HaTzva'i HaLe'umi
> BeEretz
> > > Yisra'el, הארגון הצבאי הלאומי בארץ ישראל, "National Military
> > > Organization in the Land of Israel") was a militant Zionist
> group that
> > > operated in Palestine between 1931 and 1948. It was
> established as a
> > > militant offshoot of the earlier and larger Jewish
> paramilitary
> > > organization Haganah (Hebrew: "The Defense", ההגנה). For
> secrecy
> > > reasons, people often referred to the Irgun, during that time,
> as
> > > Haganah Bet (Hebrew: literally "Defense 'B' " or "Second
> Defense",
> > > הגנה ב), or alternatively as Haganah Ha'leumit (ההגנה הלאומית)
> or
> > > Ha'ma'amad (המעמד). In present-day Israel, Irgun is commonly
> referred
> > > to as Etzel (אצ"ל), an acronym of the Hebrew initials.
> > >
> > > The Irgun was the armed expression of the nascent ideology of
> > > Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky. He expressed
> this
> > > ideology as "every Jew had the right to enter Palestine; only
> active
> > > retaliation would deter the Arabs and the British; only Jewish
> armed
> > > force would ensure the Jewish state".[1] Initially, a central
> part of
> > > their efforts included attacks against Palestinian Arabs,[2]
> but it
> > > increasingly shifted to attacks against the British. Some of
> the
> > > better-known attacks by Irgun were the bombing of the King
> David Hotel
> > > in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre
> > > (accomplished together with the Stern Gang) on 9 April 1948.
> In the
> > > West, Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The
> New York
> > > Times newspaper,[3][4] and by the Anglo-American Committee of
> > > Enquiry.[5] Irgun attacks prompted a formal declaration from
> the World
> > > Zionist Congress in 1946, which strongly condemned "the
> shedding of
> > > innocent blood as a means of political warfare".[6]
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Thursday, November 13, 2008

Robert Fisk: Double agents, car bombs and antics worthy of James Bond


 
Assalam-o-Alaikum
Good story and you can relate to other operations going on in the world.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-double-agents-car-bombs-and-antics-worthy-of-james-bond-1015858.html
A mystery visitor leads our man in Beirut to wonder what Syria was up to when it aired a mass confession on state TV

When it comes to spy stories, Ian Fleming couldn't match Lebanon – and Sister Syria – for the kind of head-spinning espionage and murder mystery now engulfing the Levant. The contents page must include the murder of a prominent pro-Iranian kidnapper and guerrilla leader in Damascus, Israeli Mossad spies, bomb explosions in both Lebanon and Syria, claims that the pro-American son of an assassinated ex-prime minister in Beirut funds an Islamist killer group – not to mention an intriguing connection to the Lebanese hijacker of United Flight 93 on 11 September 2001. If the tale is even half-true – and I've had a visitation from a Syrian suggesting his countrymen believe quite a lot of it – there has to be a bid for the film rights.

On 14 February 2005, the former prime minister and billionaire Rafik Hariri – along with 21 others – was liquidated by a massive bomb on the Beirut Corniche. The Americans and much of Lebanon suspected his Syrian enemies were to blame, and the United Nations set up an international inquiry – now the longest running police investigation in the world – into his death. The cops fingered Syria, and the regime of Bashar al-Assad in Damascus protested its innocence. A further series of murders and a bloody battle between pro-Syrian, pro-Iranian Hizbollah fighters and gunmen paid by the majority Future Movement MP Saad Hariri (son of the aforesaid Rafik) finished up with a conference in Doha which ensured that Lebanon's pro-American prime minister would lead a cabinet whose pro-Syrian opposition would have veto powers over cabinet decisions.

Add to this a prolonged siege by the Lebanese army last year to eject Palestinian Islamists of the Fatah al-Islam movement from the Nahr el-Bared refugee camp (total dead around 400, including more than 140 soldiers) and a televised "confession" by survivors of the group in Syria last

weekend which fingered Saad Hariri for a suicide bombing in Damascus, and still the story doesn't end. Syria this year agreed for the first time in its history to open formal diplomatic relations with Lebanon. It should be quite a relationship.

The latest chapter began last week when Lebanese soldiers reportedly arrested two brothers – Ali and Yussef Jarrah – as Lebanese agents of the Israeli Mossad intelligence service. They had, Lebanese authorities claimed, staked out the Kfar Sousa district of Damascus prior to the February car bombing death of Imad Mougnieh, a specialist in the kidnapping of Westerners in Beirut in the mid-1980s. Ali Jarrah is said to have belonged to Ahmed Jibril's Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine General Command, the outfit many Arabs (though not the Scottish courts) believe set off the bomb on the TWA flight over Lockerbie in 1988.

The Sunni Muslim Jarrah brothers are distant relatives of the 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah who piloted United 93 into the ground – if it wasn't shot down – in Pennsylvania. But now the tale becomes even darker. Jarrah was apparently also arrested in Damascus and "questioned" by the Syrian secret police about his supposed links with Fatah al-Islam, the weird and heavily bearded Palestinian group which declared war on the Lebanese army last year. At the time, the Lebanese insisted that the organisation – with the usual spread of Arab gunmen from Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Algeria – had been sent into the country by Syria to cause anarchy and mayhem in the newly restored democracy of Lebanon. The group's leader, Chakar Absi, mysteriously escaped when the battles ended.

Yet this weekend, Chakar Absi's chadored daughter Wafa, along with 10 dozen rueful-looking men, appeared on Syrian state television to announce that Fatah al-Islam and its "head of security" – a certain Taha Hussein Abdel-Baki al-Hussein al-Walid – had organised the suicide bombing of civilians in a Damascus street on 27 September in an attempt to overthrow Bashar al-Assad's Syrian regime. The bombing was carried out by a Saudi and the organisation, according to the somewhat frightened men on the television screen, obtained funds from "Salafist groups" and Saudis and – here was the dagger in the story – from the Future Movement and the Lebanese BankMed financial institution, both run by Saad Hariri, son of the Lebanese ex-premier killed in 2006.

The US journalist Seymour Hersh has already hinted in The New Yorker that Hariri money – and even American money – had been given to Fatah al-Islam, but Syria's TV spectacular was on a far greater scale. Hariri immediately denounced the claim.

No one, of course, doubts that Syria's principal concern remains the UN's international tribunal into Rafik Hariri's murder. In 2005, The Independent was the first to announce the forthcoming international court – an event that prompted President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt to fly to Syria to tell Mr Assad how serious his position had become – and since then, two young Syrian men have turned up in Beirut to ask my thoughts on whether the tribunal will formally accuse anyone of Hariri's murder.

The second man arrived last week, anxious over coffee to know if the UN would point the finger at Syria. I suggested that the Syrian Baath Party security apparatus – though not the president – might indeed know more than it has been revealing. The young man then questioned me about an article in The Irish Times in which Hariri was allegedly reported as saying he wanted "a road from Beirut to Tel Aviv". No such article has ever appeared in The Irish Times.

The young man, who described himself as a reporter for Syria's first non-government television station – an institution I had never heard of – left without learning anything more than I had myself reported in The Independent. But his questions mirrored Syria's own preoccupation with the UN inquiry. Already, one of the UN's regular reports was censored in New York to delete the names of Syrian officials who might have been involved in Hariri's murder, and there is a growing fear in Lebanon that the Americans – in their desire to persuade Syria to hinder the flow of insurgents into Iraq – may be prepared to close down the UN tribunal. All of which makes the US helicopter strike into Syria this month against alleged al-Qa'ida fighters all the more mysterious.

Then just two days ago, another of the Fatah al-Islam men named on Syrian television by his former colleagues as responsible for the September car-bombing in Damascus was seized by Lebanese troops.

Needless to say – as always in the Levant – everybody is innocent. Hariri denies any connection with Fatah al-Islam, the Syrians deny they murdered Hariri and the Israelis say Mossad was never involved in Mougnieh's Damascus death. The only certainty is that Hariri is dead. So is Mougnieh. So are a lot of Syrian and Lebanese civilians. And – given the bizarre connection with 9/11 – a lot of Americans too.



Azfar

Quran 16:90 Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.
 


Wednesday, November 05, 2008

If a black skiny boy from south side of Chicago can do this


 
Assalam-o-Alaikum

I hope we in Pakistan learn from the history and finally get rid of corrupt Army and so Called politicians.
http://www.chicagotribune.com
No matter where you stand this history in US and in Chicago.
Grand Park is the place of history.
For just to give a perspective
It is like a brilliant and intelligent middle class person from Lalo-Khait in Karachi or Mughalpura Lahore beat Banazir (Late) and Army at the same time.
Azfar

Quran 16:90 Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.
 

At 8 p.m., all the networks project Barack Obama the next president of the United States

The official verdict from the television networks came down at precisely 8 p.m., just as the polls closed in California: Barack Obama had won the 2008 presidential contest.

"An African American has broken a barrier as old as the Republic," NBC anchor Brian Williams said. "An astonishing candidate, an astonishing campaign, a seismic shift in American politics."

With plenty of time to prepare, all the networks made the call simultaneously, pronouncing with certainty what they had prognosticated throughout the night.

"Barack Obama will be the 44th president of the United States," said ABC anchor Charles Gibson.

Over on CBS, anchor Katie Couric said: "We have breaking news, momentous news, really: CBS now estimates that  because of victories in California, Washington, Oregon and Hawaii, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois will be the next president of the United States."

The network projections came remarkably early compared with 2004, when the close count in Ohio left the outcome unclear late into the night. Tonight, the picture was much clearer, and the television anchors spent much of the night trying -– sometimes in vain -- to keep from calling the race until it was official.

"Barack Obama is going to be the next president of the United States," Bob Schieffer said on CBS News shortly after 7 p.m., when the network projected that the Democrat had 206 electoral votes.

Others were a bit more reserved in their assessments.

"It's getting very, very close for Sen. Obama," CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer said around the same time. "And the climb for Sen. McCain -- you know, it's hard to see how he gets to the 270."

The relative discipline by the networks stemmed from the public drubbing the networks received in 2000 after their premature calls about who had won Florida contributed to massive confusion about the outcome of the race.

This year, the broadcast and cable networks vowed not to project a president-elect before a nominee officially had 270 electoral votes on his column. They held off awarding any electoral votes into all the polls in a state were scheduled to close, and waited for actual vote returns in close contests instead of projecting based on exit polls.

But that didn't stop anchors and analysts from offering early hints about the way the race was leaning. The first clues came around 5 p.m., when the networks began handing Obama a win in Pennsylvania, a state Sen. John McCain had vowed to win.

"If Virginia doesn't go the way the McCain campaign is hoping, then it becomes this iron triangle of survival for John McCain of Florida, North Carolina and Ohio," NBC political director Chuck Todd said.

At 6:18 p.m., Fox News was the first network to give Obama the key prize of Ohio.

"Unless something miraculous happens in one of these non-battleground states, McCain's situation is looking pretty dire," anchor Brit Hume said.

"At the moment it still looks pretty grim for Sen. McCain and a very daunting task here," Sam Donaldson said on ABC News 10 minutes later.

Over on NBC, Tom Brokaw agreed.

"Let's cut to the chase here," he said. "At this moment, this is very heartening news for Barack Obama."

Shortly before 8 p.m., Hume noted that the California polls were about to close. "And you know what that means," he said.

At 7:55 p.m., Williams urged viewers to keep watching because coming up, there would be "some major states, some major calls -– it gets exciting."

Five minutes later, it was all over.

-- Matea Gold, Scott Collins, Maria Elena Fernandez and Martin Miller.